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Donald Trump, the Russian Mob, and 1980s New York

Author Craig Unger explores Trump's ties to the KGB.

I welcome my colleague

, the author of several books that reveal a world I lived in, that we all lived in in the 20th century: the Cold War.

But this is fun because it connects it to today and to a man named Donald Trump. We begin with David Bogatin. The year is 1984.

David Bogatin is a mobster, but a special kind, and he's really rich for a reason known as the “Red Daisy” gas scam. If this sounds like Hollywood, they're not this good.

Who was David Bogatin , and where did he get all that money? What was the “Red Daisy” scam of 1984 and before?

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